Begone Vile Front Plate, Ruiner of Front Bumpers!

"FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com" (alphaass) 12/08/2018 at 22:25 • Filed to: New Mexico, Subaru

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For the Land of Enchantment hath  no need for your defiling ways! And, lo, though thou hath left a stain upon this crossover of the Forest, the wise methods of our Lord Svend shall with time heal the wounds your screws hath verily inflicted.

pip bip - choose Corrour > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 22:33

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I just don’t understand why people in the USA are so against front number plates?

99% of the world it is a legal requirement 

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 22:40

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Front plates are dumb. That being said, since you’re already pierced, maybe get a cool vanity plate or Japanese plate to fill the holes.

OR, my personal fav, a plate from a different state to fuck to the popo. I had a truck with holes in the bumper, so I rode with my NM plate on the front in PA. Confused many peoples, especially those that didn’t realize there was a “new” Mexico. 

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/08/2018 at 22:40

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Because American ones are really ugly. Euro plates fit better with the lines of modern cars.

Spamfeller Loves Nazi Clicks > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/08/2018 at 22:43

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Because your front number plates can blend into the bumper. Also because fuck drilling the bumper and ruining it.

But mostly o urs look like ass.

Yours look like ass too, but significantly less ass and don’t fuck up the airflow . Compare.

Porsche 996 EU front plate:

Fits cleanly along the contour, short enough to not block airflow. And here’s the US license plate setup for the 996:

Europe:

US :

someassemblyrequired > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 22:50

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Now you need to slap on a Northwest Territories polar bear plate on the front to mess with people’s minds:

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 22:53

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This is my take: The US only has an issue with front plates because it is so seldom and inconsistently enforced.

In other countries (and even some states in the US), you will get absolutely nailed (registration suspended, huge fine, etc.) for not having two plates.

Japan has even worse (taller) plates than the US. But they are strict and every single car carries front plates, albeit some in very dodgy ways. On the tiny Honda S660 the front plate practically occupies a third of the car’s front clip.

Yes, front plates wreck my sports car’s front fascia looks. But it’s only an issue because most of us actually get away with not displaying them here in the US.

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 23:02

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Let the PZEV be free they shouted from the mountain tops.

ranwhenparked > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 12/08/2018 at 23:03

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It isn’t about enforcement, it simply isn’t legally required in most states. My cars don’t have front plates because my state just doesn’t do them, you get issued one plate per vehicle and that’s it*.

*unless you pay extra for a permit to drive your vehicle on the beach. In that case, you get a special front plate that's different from the regular one on the back. But, I think you can only get one if you have 4WD.

Svend > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/08/2018 at 23:04

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Ye’, I really don’t get it either.

A licence plate is a legal req uirement so how it looks doesn’t really matter, nor it being there. 

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > ranwhenparked 12/08/2018 at 23:11

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Err yeah, I recall that AZ and NM don’t do front plates.  Any others?

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 12/08/2018 at 23:12

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Yeah that badge needs to be the next thing to go.  At least it’s factory but it is silly. 

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > someassemblyrequired 12/08/2018 at 23:13

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Nice. I was thinking of this bizarre old ND plate that I found in TX or my old PA “Truck” plate.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 12/08/2018 at 23:17

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It really makes people front the Midwest’s heads explode when I tell them that it was actually named   New Mexico 250 years before Mexico.

We’ve gone opposite directions. I was born and raised in PA. I should stick the PA “ Truck” plate from my S10 on the front. 

wafflesnfalafel > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 23:17

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T he wider US plates block airflow on some vehicles - I used one of those adjustable moun ting thingies to pull the plate up about 3 inches and my oil temps dropped 2  degs on the freeway...  I wish designers would more successfully take the front plate into account.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/08/2018 at 23:20

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Americans are basically against anything their local, state, and federal governments tells them they have to do. We’d prefer to have no plates at all but we know that’ll never happen so we fight agains the front ones - only about half the states actually require them. Plus our plates are generally ugly and don’t fit the front fascias of modern cars well at all. 

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > wafflesnfalafel 12/08/2018 at 23:25

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I see a lot of those plate mounts that screw into the two hook mounts on turbo cars where the normal plate position blocks the inter cooler. I think it’s a tricky spot for designers - only about half of the US requires them, and about half of those that do don’t really care if the plate is on the dashboard.  Plus cars these days are sold more globally than ever.  So  they don’t seem to have a big incentive to account for tall US plates up front. 

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 23:26

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I went from P hilly to C entral PA to Santa Fe to Central PA to Philly . I can’t stomach moving again unless it’s to Hawaii.

That being said, there were SO MANY times I went to bars in my early 20s at the shore with my NM license and had the bartender be like “idk if we accept international IDs here...”

Wagon Guy drives a Boostang > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 12/08/2018 at 23:26

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Rear plates only : Alabama, Arizona, Arkansas, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, Puerto Rico, South Carolina, Tennessee, West Virginia

ranwhenparked > Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever 12/08/2018 at 23:28

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In total, 19 - Alabama, Arkansas, Arizona, Delaware, Florida, Georgia, Michigan, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Kentucky, Indiana, Tennessee, Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Kansas, Louisiana, and South Carolina.

Should have said "many" , not "most" , since that's a smaller amount than I thought and clearly not a majority, but still, 19 out of 50. I've lived in two of them. 

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > wafflesnfalafel 12/08/2018 at 23:30

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They do by basically not worrying about North American needs in this case . If a country can not be consistent in its design requirements for vehicles then it gets what is given because that’s cheaper for the manufacturer...

Let’s face it... everywhere else has basically resized their number plates to suit the current crop of cars rather than waiting plaintively for something else to happen...

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind 12/08/2018 at 23:32

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Interestingly they don’t put New Mexico USA on the licenses like they do on the plates. I live near Santa Fe now. Spent some time running around  Central PA. My wife went to Lock Haven then had a job in North Bedford for a while while I was in grad school at PSU living in State College. I’m from Pittsburgh. I like to visit but I have no desire to go back.  Moving this summer from TX to NM with a wife and two kids nearly killed me with stress.  I don’t want to do that again for a very long time. 

Chan - Mid-engine with cabin fever > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/08/2018 at 23:40

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Because American cops (at least in the states that require front plates) haven’t figured out that it’s a lucrative thing to enforce.

M.T. Blake > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 23:42

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Annnnnnd then he got pulled over. Might as well add some dark tint while you’re at it. Both improve the car to illegal levels, unfortunately. 

Longtime Lurker > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/08/2018 at 23:52

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Great now you just need to mount a lightbar to cover those screw holes.

Textured Soy Protein > pip bip - choose Corrour 12/09/2018 at 00:04

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Because many cars look better without front plates, and we can generally get away with not having one.

Some states don’t require front plates, or even issue them. My sister moved from Maryland to North Carolina, and North Carolina only gives you one plate for the back of the car. Now she has an ugly empty front plate holder.

But on this particular Subaru that has a perfectly good spot for a front plate that kinda looks stupid without the front plate, I’d just run the front plate.

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Longtime Lurker 12/09/2018 at 01:53

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That’s something I may do.  Light bars are actually useful out here. 

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > M.T. Blake 12/09/2018 at 01:58

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We don’t have front plates here. I actually made it legal by taking off  my TX plates and putting on the NM one that I was supposed to a couple months ago. 

Future Heap Owner > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/09/2018 at 02:59

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Yeah that’s  always seemed weird to me. My 100% internal combustion car is also capable of partially zero emissions: when it’s off. Or engine braking.

M.T. Blake > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/09/2018 at 13:09

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Wait they don’t issue two plates?

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > M.T. Blake 12/09/2018 at 21:36

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Nope rear plates only here.  It was the same thing when I lived in PA - they only do rear plates and you just get issued a single plate.  We also don’t have inspections here in NM or emissions in my county which means no window stickers either.  Just a single rear plate with a little registration sticker in the corner. 

FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com > Textured Soy Protein 12/09/2018 at 21:38

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Any suggestions for what to put up there?  I don’t have a rear plate anymore and don’t like the idea of just keeping my old TX plate on in case I go back to visit and it comes up as expired.  Another commenter suggested one of those polar bear shaped Northwest Territories Canadian plate I might see if I can find one of those. 

Textured Soy Protein > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/09/2018 at 22:52

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CafePress has basically infinite amounts of novelty license plates. Just search for "(topic) license plate" and you're bound to find something you like.

M.T. Blake > FTTOHG Has Moved to https://opposite-lock.com 12/10/2018 at 01:35

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And here I thought two plates was the norm... I found a site that said 19 states issue one plate?!